Has Wildlife Been Run Off the Valley Floor?
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Editor:

Please help me understand. Last year much was said and written about the return of wildlife, especially the elk, and some mule deer, to the Valley Floor after removal of the dairy cattle. I have seen and photographed them, and they have provided much enjoyment for me and my family, and I assume, for others. The eastern two-thirds or so of the Valley Floor was groomed for cross-country skiing. The west end was left untouched, and lo and behold, there was wildlife there. This year, the entire Valley Floor has been groomed with nordic trails, and skiers abound. What does not abound is wildlife. Is there some relationship between the number of people constantly present throughout the Valley Floor, the circumnavigating of turbocharged diesel, smoke-belching, caterpillar-tracked vehicles, and the absence of wildlife? I understood one of the factors to be honored in the consensus about Valley Floor use was the wildlife. Were there not enough miles of trails last year, so now we have to consume and devour the entire Valley Floor? Instead of Valley Floor Green, might we be considered Valley Floor Greedy?

Please enlighten me.

Sincerely,

Ken Krueger
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leave it Neal
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February 18, 2010
Aren't you satisfied with the billions of tax dollars you're collecting from the never ending wars and the billions in gov't dole for your nuclear power plants?
We are going to be
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February 17, 2010
needing money..SMVC, those evil people, what with being owned by Arms Merchant Neal Blue, are looking to access their court granted water access rights ...

They will need to be stopped. God knows we dont need the water, what with our diesel xc ski prep machine we have eliminated all wildlife from the Wild and Free Forever Valley Floor, but yet it is a matter of principle.

Our principles, your money. We need a tax increase and a surcharge on your groceries as we dont want this evil bunch interfering with our XC Wet Dreams...

Ok, gotta go to Montrose to get my groceries in my Prius..the rest of you get out there and buy something taxable so we get the first 20%...
xc skiier here.
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January 12, 2010
Look. We control the VF by our involvement on the Open Space commission.

We want to ski all of it and because we write the rules, we will and are.

We appreciate you non skiiers staying off of our track and also being sure to shop in town (we drive our Subaru's to Montrose for groceries to save on the tax). The sooner you get the VF paid off then the sooner we can go engineer another condemnation in the name of Wild and Free Forever!
ok.....
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January 12, 2010
so if machines make people washed up, fat older men (according to the blanket comment below) then how is it that the xc skiers using the groomed trails aren't becoming just that? What if everyone said "skiing is for fat old washed up men." based on the participants of the sport who happen to be fat and old? Lame.

I twist a throttle and I'm in great shape and would take any spandex queen on when it comes to downright physical shape. Moto has kept my body young over the years, just like xc skiin
Yes, lets leave the
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January 12, 2010
VF for everyone and not just the skinny skaters...

If you want a laugh, hike out on the VF in your snow shoes while the activist is plowing his very own VF with his machine..the guy pops a head gasket..seems we are not allowed on "his" Valley Floor...

Now, if only he would exempt the rest of us from the sales tax surcharge on the VF debt....
not so fast
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January 12, 2010
As a skinny skier with a long history of VF preservation activism, I take issue with the amount of grooming out there. I would say the people who are setting the grooming policy were noticeably absent when the heavy lifting was done to secure the property. Indeed, if they don't reign it in, I doubt skating will be allowed to continue.
Reality-Check
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January 12, 2010
If you read both the Valley Floor Environmental Report and the minutes of the Open Space Commission management planning meetings you will see that the elk tend to use the VF as a severe weather refuge and a spring calving area. Since there isn't much snow on the south wall of the Valley yet they can still hang up high. Wait a while, they'll be back.

That said, the skinny skiers have been remarkably effective in insuring their interests prevail on the Valley Floor. By seeding Open Space with their organization's members and directors and opposing anyone and anything that might interfere with their take over of the VF in winter regardless of costs they've proven how effective an organization can be in capturing a community resource for their own at virtually zero cost to them.

THCPA
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January 11, 2010
Yes, you xc types are the tops..now why dont you just plow your own track and leave the machine behind...

I thought that some of the VF was super sensitive...but you seem to have plowed down the whole thing with your machine...

What gives...
to ol
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January 11, 2010
a little xc skiing will do wonders for that roll cascading over your belt
Better to be....
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January 11, 2010
....old and fat than young and a total tool.
a bunch of wusses?
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January 11, 2010
Aren't motorsports--anything that just takes rotating or pushing or pulling a throttle--merely for washed-up older men who are to pathetic to do anything that requires strength? Poor guys--it's tough being old and fat.
Yo Jerry McGrath!
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January 10, 2010
You must be out of your mind at Team Honda. It's motocross, not moto "r" cross!

Practice should be 4 days a week to spread people out more. Races on friday and saturday nites and sunday as you suggest.

You can't keep one track solely for yourselves at team honda. There will need to be a plethora of tracks for varying abilities and styles.

We over here at Team Yamaha think this would be jiggy.

You people in spandex need to know that that stuff's just nasty.
spandex wearing
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January 10, 2010
ego man says...

leave us alone out here on the VF!..Thanks, Chumps for paying for our sport's stadium everytime you buy groceries!....and for all you touring nordic skiiers..keep out of our way...

We rule!
Jerry McGrath
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January 09, 2010
Hey, wassup?

Over here at Team Honda we were thinking that we could build ourselves a motorcross track from the Non-XC-Designated-Exclusive-Use-For-The-Valley-Floor period-basically from April 1 through Thanksgiving...

Moto's on Sunday, Practice on Tuesday and Thursdays.

No one else allowed to use our track or criticize us in any fashion, etc.

Jiggy?
x-c lover
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January 09, 2010
As a guy who loves to skate on the VF, I'll agree that the groomer is in use way too much. Minimize it or lose it (you sure don't need to be grooming if it doesn't snow.
Gus J.
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January 08, 2010
I completely agree. In no way should there be any type of machinery allowed on the Valley Floor including snowmobiles and groomers.

The Wild and Free Forever campaign now just looks like a hypocritical ploy to "save" land for the benefit of Telluride recreationalists. Skiers should be allowed to ski the Valley Floor...without the help of groomers.
THCPA
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January 08, 2010
No, the introduction of the grooming machine on the entire valley floor has disturbed the wild and free forever VF and the elk are gone.

Please temper your temper - your need to pave the entire Valley Floor so you can prance around in spandex was not why the community purchased the VF.

It was supposed to be Wild and Free Forever and not your publicly supported private gym-

Get Real Yourself.
Dave Mac
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January 08, 2010
What a crock! If you were to actually spend some time on the valley floor you would see there are signs of elk everywhere. Just because they do not position themselves for your viewing pleasure does not mean they are gone. They are wild animals that go where they wish , when they want and that changes year to year and season to season. Last winter I spotted numerous elk along the river road on the San Miguel next to Hwy 145. I have yet to see any there so far this winter. Get real.